84o Push/Fold: When to Shove Eight-Four offsuit
84o is a Nash shove from the Button up to 1bb in 6-max and 9-max, and from the Small Blind up to 3bb.
In 6-max it shoves from Under the Gun up to 1bb, the Cutoff up to 1bb, the Button up to 1bb, and the Small Blind up to 3bb.
In 9-max it shoves from Under the Gun up to 1bb, the Middle Position up to 1bb, the Cutoff up to 1bb, the Button up to 1bb, and the Small Blind up to 3bb.
Ranks #156 of 169 hands by how often it shoves · shove in 13 of 225 solved spots · 12 combos
Verdict by seat and stack
How 84o compares
Suitedness is worth 25 extra shove spots here: 84s is a shove in 38 of the 225 solved spots, 84o in 13. From the 6-max Button 84s shoves up to 2bb and 84o up to 1bb.
Hand shape: the weak offsuit kicker is often dominated when called.
84o push/fold FAQ
Is 84o a shove at 10bb?
At 10bb in 6-max, 84o is a fold from Under the Gun, the Cutoff, the Button, and the Small Blind. At 10bb in 9-max, 84o is a fold from Under the Gun, the Middle Position, the Cutoff, the Button, and the Small Blind.
Up to how many big blinds should 84o shove from the Button?
From the Button, 84o is a Nash shove up to 1bb in 6-max and 9-max.
Up to how many big blinds should 84o shove from the Small Blind?
From the Small Blind, 84o is a Nash shove up to 3bb in 6-max and 9-max.
What stack size do these verdicts assume?
Stacks are measured in big blinds behind the posted blinds, chip-EV, no antes, solved from 1 to 25bb. Shove means the Nash solution pushes the hand at least 95% of the time, fold at most 5%, and anything between is a mix.
How these numbers are computed: methodology and open dataset.
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