A8o Push/Fold: When to Shove Ace-Eight offsuit

A8o is a Nash shove from the Button up to 16bb in 6-max and 9-max, and from the Small Blind at every stack up to 25bb.

In 6-max it shoves from Under the Gun up to 6bb, the Cutoff up to 10bb, the Button up to 16bb, and the Small Blind at every stack up to 25bb.

In 9-max it shoves from Under the Gun up to 4bb, the Middle Position up to 5bb, the Cutoff up to 10bb, the Button up to 16bb, and the Small Blind at every stack up to 25bb.

Ranks #52 of 169 hands by how often it shoves · shove in 117 of 225 solved spots · 12 combos

Verdict by seat and stack

A8o — 6-Max verdicts (cell links open the spot chart)
SeatMax5bb8bb10bb12bb15bb20bb
UTG≤6bbShove20%9%6%FoldFold
CO≤10bbShoveShoveShove23%7%Fold
BTN≤16bbShoveShoveShoveShoveShove10%
SB25bb+ShoveShoveShoveShoveShoveShove
A8o — 9-Max verdicts (cell links open the spot chart)
SeatMax5bb8bb10bb12bb15bb20bb
UTG≤4bb87%10%6%FoldFoldFold
MP≤5bbShove14%7%FoldFoldFold
CO≤10bbShoveShoveShove23%7%Fold
BTN≤16bbShoveShoveShoveShoveShove10%
SB25bb+ShoveShoveShoveShoveShoveShove

How A8o compares

Suitedness is worth 36 extra shove spots here: A8s is a shove in 153 of the 225 solved spots, A8o in 117. From the 6-max Button A8s shoves at every stack up to 25bb and A8o up to 16bb.

Hand shape: the ace is a blocker — it removes some of the aces and big pairs a caller needs and the weak offsuit kicker is often dominated when called.

A8o is an edge hand in 14 published spots, where the Nash solution mixes it: 6-max CO 12bb (23%), 9-max CO 12bb (23%), 6-max UTG 8bb (20%), 9-max MP 8bb (14%), 9-max UTG 5bb (87%), and 6-max BTN 20bb (10%), plus 8 more. In a true Nash mix both options earn about the same against the equilibrium callers, so a consistent default costs little.

A8o push/fold FAQ

Is A8o a shove at 10bb?

At 10bb in 6-max, A8o is a shove from the Cutoff, the Button, and the Small Blind and mixed from Under the Gun (9%). At 10bb in 9-max, A8o is a shove from the Cutoff, the Button, and the Small Blind and mixed from Under the Gun (6%) and the Middle Position (7%).

Up to how many big blinds should A8o shove from the Button?

From the Button, A8o is a Nash shove up to 16bb in 6-max and 9-max.

Up to how many big blinds should A8o shove from the Small Blind?

From the Small Blind, A8o is a Nash shove at every stack up to 25bb in 6-max and 9-max.

What stack size do these verdicts assume?

Stacks are measured in big blinds behind the posted blinds, chip-EV, no antes, solved from 1 to 25bb. Shove means the Nash solution pushes the hand at least 95% of the time, fold at most 5%, and anything between is a mix.

How these numbers are computed: methodology and open dataset.

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