J8o Push/Fold: When to Shove Jack-Eight offsuit

J8o is a Nash shove from the Button up to 3bb in 6-max and 9-max, and from the Small Blind up to 10bb.

In 6-max it shoves from Under the Gun up to 2bb, the Cutoff up to 3bb, the Button up to 3bb, and the Small Blind up to 10bb.

In 9-max it shoves from Under the Gun up to 2bb, the Middle Position up to 2bb, the Cutoff up to 3bb, the Button up to 3bb, and the Small Blind up to 10bb.

Ranks #102 of 169 hands by how often it shoves · shove in 38 of 225 solved spots · 12 combos

Verdict by seat and stack

J8o — 6-Max verdicts (cell links open the spot chart)
SeatMax5bb8bb10bb12bb15bb20bb
UTG≤2bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
CO≤3bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
BTN≤3bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
SB≤10bbShoveShoveShove21%8%Fold
J8o — 9-Max verdicts (cell links open the spot chart)
SeatMax5bb8bb10bb12bb15bb20bb
UTG≤2bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
MP≤2bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
CO≤3bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
BTN≤3bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
SB≤10bbShoveShoveShove21%8%Fold

How J8o compares

Suitedness is worth 39 extra shove spots here: J8s is a shove in 77 of the 225 solved spots, J8o in 38. From the 6-max Button J8s shoves up to 6bb and J8o up to 3bb.

Hand shape: its small gap still leaves straight draws and the weak offsuit kicker is often dominated when called.

J8o is an edge hand in 4 published spots, where the Nash solution mixes it: 6-max SB 12bb (21%), 9-max SB 12bb (21%), 6-max SB 15bb (8%), and 9-max SB 15bb (8%). In a true Nash mix both options earn about the same against the equilibrium callers, so a consistent default costs little.

J8o push/fold FAQ

Is J8o a shove at 10bb?

At 10bb in 6-max, J8o is a shove from the Small Blind and a fold from Under the Gun, the Cutoff, and the Button. At 10bb in 9-max, J8o is a shove from the Small Blind and a fold from Under the Gun, the Middle Position, the Cutoff, and the Button.

Up to how many big blinds should J8o shove from the Button?

From the Button, J8o is a Nash shove up to 3bb in 6-max and 9-max.

Up to how many big blinds should J8o shove from the Small Blind?

From the Small Blind, J8o is a Nash shove up to 10bb in 6-max and 9-max.

What stack size do these verdicts assume?

Stacks are total big blinds before posting blinds, chip-EV, no antes, solved from 1 to 25bb. Shove means the Nash solution pushes the hand at least 95% of the time, fold at most 5%, and anything between is a mix.

How these numbers are computed: methodology and open dataset.

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