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Q8s Push/Fold: When to Shove Queen-Eight suited

Q8s is a Nash shove from the Button up to 11bb in 6-max and 9-max, and from the Small Blind at every stack up to 25bb.

In 6-max it shoves from Under the Gun up to 3bb, the Cutoff up to 6bb, the Button up to 11bb, and the Small Blind at every stack up to 25bb.

In 9-max it shoves from Under the Gun up to 3bb, the Middle Position up to 3bb, the Cutoff up to 6bb, the Button up to 11bb, and the Small Blind at every stack up to 25bb.

Ranks #53 of 169 hands by how often it shoves · shove in 93 of 225 solved spots · 4 combos

Verdict by seat and stack

Q8s — 6-Max verdicts (cell links open the spot chart)
SeatMax5bb8bb10bb12bb15bb20bb
UTG≤3bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
CO≤6bbShove85%74%73%46%Fold
BTN≤11bbShoveShoveShove93%88%76%
SB25bb+ShoveShoveShoveShoveShoveShove
Q8s — 9-Max verdicts (cell links open the spot chart)
SeatMax5bb8bb10bb12bb15bb20bb
UTG≤3bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
MP≤3bbFoldFoldFoldFoldFoldFold
CO≤6bbShove85%74%73%46%Fold
BTN≤11bbShoveShoveShove93%88%76%
SB25bb+ShoveShoveShoveShoveShoveShove

How Q8s compares

Suitedness is worth 46 extra shove spots here: Q8s is a shove in 93 of the 225 solved spots, Q8o in 47. From the 6-max Button Q8s shoves up to 11bb and Q8o up to 5bb.

Hand shape: being suited adds flush equity when it is called.

Q8s is an edge hand in 14 published spots, where the Nash solution mixes it: 6-max CO 15bb (46%), 9-max CO 15bb (46%), 6-max CO 12bb (73%), 9-max CO 12bb (73%), 6-max CO 10bb (74%), and 9-max CO 10bb (74%), plus 8 more. In a true Nash mix both options earn about the same against the equilibrium callers, so a consistent default costs little.

Q8s push/fold FAQ

Is Q8s a shove at 10bb?

At 10bb in 6-max, Q8s is a shove from the Button and the Small Blind, mixed from the Cutoff (74%), and a fold from Under the Gun. At 10bb in 9-max, Q8s is a shove from the Button and the Small Blind, mixed from the Cutoff (74%), and a fold from Under the Gun and the Middle Position.

Up to how many big blinds should Q8s shove from the Button?

From the Button, Q8s is a Nash shove up to 11bb in 6-max and 9-max.

Up to how many big blinds should Q8s shove from the Small Blind?

From the Small Blind, Q8s is a Nash shove at every stack up to 25bb in 6-max and 9-max.

What stack size do these verdicts assume?

Stacks are measured in big blinds behind the posted blinds, chip-EV, no antes, solved from 1 to 25bb. Shove means the Nash solution pushes the hand at least 95% of the time, fold at most 5%, and anything between is a mix.

How these numbers are computed: methodology and open dataset.

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